Tuesday, July 14, 2009
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[02:21:27] <aaz[j.k.u]> пипл, а кто-то насиловал google apps?
[02:21:49] <aaz[j.k.u]> в частности ту часть, которая корпоративный емыл позволяет?
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[06:37:41] DI HALT установил(а) тему: Если у вас нет голоса, просто подождите пока вас заметят. | По темам постов в комменты http://easyelectronics.ru/ и только туда. А если просто потрепацо, то сюда. Велкам! | Логи комнаты http://bots.tuxotronic.org/talisman/logs/easyelectronics@conference.jabber.ru/
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[08:45:01] <al3xey> Я победил патенциометр!!! *YAHOO* теперь он не сбивает частоту!!
[08:47:15] <al3xey> по совету stebanoid, припаял к корпусу переменника провод и кинул на землю. Тепрь он реагирует только на прикосновение непосредственно к контактам. Но это - не проблема, можно воском или термоклеем залить
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[09:34:44] <Di Halt> Хеллоу ворлд
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[09:51:08] <al3xey> Дихалт уже свалил? Во блин
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[09:59:32] <nazgul-laptop> всем добрый день
[10:02:05] <al3xey> Даров
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[10:43:38] <creat0r> всем привет!
[10:44:18] <creat0r> народ, а мегу32 можно завести на 8 МГц чисто внутренним генератором или лучше всё-таки кварц повесить?
[10:44:23] <creat0r> и какой кварц? :)
[10:48:24] <serkon> можно
если точность времени не нужна, то кварц не нужен
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[10:49:09] <al3xey> Народ
[10:49:22] <al3xey> Срочно! Помощь нужна
[10:49:26] <al3xey> :-(
[10:49:37] <serkon> al3xey: смерть уже близко
[10:50:00] <al3xey> Скажите любую микросхему с оу
[10:50:22] <al3xey> Я ща в магазине, но тут дубы все
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[10:50:38] <serkon> с двуполярным или однополярным питанием?
[10:51:05] <al3xey> Одно
[10:51:33] <serkon> секунду
[10:52:23] <al3xey> Видел сборки по несколько оу в одной микросхеме
[10:52:34] <serkon> LM124/224/324/324A/SA534/LM2902 — микромощные счетверенные операционные усилители (ОУ) с однополярным питанием и полосой до 1 МГц.
[10:53:04] <serkon> NE/SA/SE532/LM158/258/358/A/2904 — дешевые ОУ общего применения.
NE/SA/SE5532/5532A — малошумящие сдвоенные ОУ с внутренней компенсацией и полосой до 10 МГц.
NE/SA5230 — микромощные ОУ с питанием от 1,8 В.
NE/SA5234 — счетверенные прецизионные, микромощные ОУ с питанием от 1,8 В.
NE5517/5517A — сдвоенные транскондактные усилители с регулировкой тока утечки.
NE5533/5533A микромощные малошумящие счетверенные ОУ с полосой до 10 МГц.
NE/SA/SE5534/5534A — микромощные малошумящие сдвоенные ОУ с полосой до 10 МГц.
[10:53:15] <al3xey> Спасиб ща спрошу
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[10:59:37] <al3xey> serkon: большое, огромное спасиб! Нашлись некоторые
[11:00:12] <serkon> расскажи потом что это за микрухи такие... подойдут или нет =)
[11:01:08] <al3xey> Окэ
[11:06:38] <al3xey> serkon: это у тебя справочник есть такой?
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[11:18:57] <nazgul-laptop> пардон если не по теме, но вследствие чего может ужасно греться разъем питания ноутбука?
[11:20:26] <serkon> al3xey: в гугле одна из первых ссылок
[11:20:32] <serkon> nazgul-laptop: плохой контакт
[11:22:41] * nazgul-laptop о чем-то таком догадывался, но смущал тот факт, что разъем 12ти вольтовый
[11:22:56] <serkon> там ток очень приличный
[11:23:15] <serkon> может и дугу зажечь
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[11:30:27] <a_winner> лехкло!
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[11:34:46] <nazgul-laptop> а скажем если на разъем электролитически осадить что-нибудь типа меди или никеля контакт не улучшится?
[11:39:35] <droppmail> общий привет!
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[11:39:53] <nazgul-laptop> .me рад приветствовать droppmail
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[11:42:15] <droppmail> народ, бесперебойнику сильно поплохеет на индуктивной нагрузке?
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[11:44:20] <droppmail> мощность катухи 90 ватт
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[11:57:47] <al3xey> Ого. Этож какой обратный ток пойдет
[11:58:04] <al3xey> Надо защищать
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[12:31:30] <droppmail> al3xey -> чото я попой чую, что не стоит этого делать :)
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[23:31:42] DI HALT установил(а) тему: Если у вас нет голоса, просто подождите пока вас заметят. | По темам постов в комменты http://easyelectronics.ru/ и только туда. А если просто потрепацо, то сюда. Велкам! | Логи комнаты http://bots.tuxotronic.org/talisman/logs/easyelectronics@conference.jabber.ru/
[23:31:51] <serkon> да, не стоил он того
[23:33:23] <xrayman> лучше смапера нету клиента для телефонов
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[23:35:28] <xrayman> зря вы его забанили, а поговорить? :)
[23:35:34] <serkon> а у меня нокиа1100
[23:35:51] <winnеr> version
[23:35:53] <Крошка> winnеr: у тебя клиент Bombus-ng 0.0.5.414 - Windows Mobile 6 (WCE5.2.1437)/GIGABYTE gSmart
[23:36:24] <serkon> я его только с третьей попытки забанил. отстутствие пальца дает о себе знать
[23:36:45] <serkon> даже с четвертой
[23:37:08] <serkon> так что время на извинения у него было :)
[23:37:15] <xrayman> ыы
[23:40:39] <plumbum> Вот так... И давай голос всяким хуйкиным =)
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[23:52:31] <gabbermax> привет всем
[23:52:38] <Brainiac> прив
[23:52:41] <serkon> привет, gabbermax
[23:52:59] <gabbermax> кто-нибудь с последовательным портом работал?
[23:53:13] <Brainiac> ком?
[23:53:20] <Brainiac> задавай свой вопрос
[23:53:22] <gabbermax> rs 485
[23:53:31] <serkon> да
[23:55:19] <plumbum> грубо говоря RS-485 это не последовательный порт а электрический стандарт дифференциальной двупроводной шины %)
[23:55:46] <Brainiac> ага
[23:55:48] <xrayman> о_О я и словей-то таких не знаю
[23:56:42] <gabbermax> в общем есть сеть охранная , на микроконтроллерах , соеденена общим интерфейсом rs 485 , переодически контроллеры перестают распознаваться . Чем можно это дело продиагностировать ? Или с чего начать ? Понимаю , вопрос ламерский , но я впервые с этим сталкиваюсь , и кроме меня , некому этим занятся.
[23:57:21] <Brainiac> схемы в студию
[23:58:14] <serkon> сделай слушалку шины
[23:58:33] <gabbermax> схем нет , есть глючный охранный комплекс , коммерческий
[23:58:56] <ДИМОН> дык там просто 232 в 485 преобразуются
[23:59:11] <ДИМОН> как комплект называется?
[23:59:12] <gabbermax> слушалку шины?
[23:59:19] <gabbermax> Рубеж
[23:59:29] <serkon> да. макс485+макс232+комп
[23:59:52] <serkon> разберешься в протоколе, найдешь отличия нормальной работы от глюка