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Thursday, July 02, 2009

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[00:30:42] <noxyuct> мцу эт че такое?
[00:31:49] <microxa> робен знает.
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[00:37:50] <plumbum> noxyuct, вроде micro controller unit =)
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[01:29:14] <serkon> там там там там татам там татам
[01:30:00] <noxyuct> где?
[01:30:06] <serkon> словил кз в проводке
[01:30:13] <noxyuct> где?
[01:30:16] <serkon> квартиры
[01:30:22] <serkon> внутренний автомат на 20 ампер выгорел
[01:30:26] <serkon> на 25 вышибло
[01:30:31] <serkon> сжег пару проводов пока понял что кз
[01:31:39] <noxyuct> прикольно
[01:31:54] <serkon> забил, запитал что надо от другой квартиры
[01:32:02] <serkon> похоже где-то в стене
[01:35:35] <plumbum> serkon, маньяк =)
[01:35:48] <plumbum> serkon, ставь личный дизель =)
[01:35:54] <serkon> под окном стоит
[01:36:18] <serkon> правда подкапотное пространство залито кислотой и половина крыльчатки вентилятора отхреначена
[01:37:56] <plumbum> serkon, чинить.. срочно чинить =)
[01:38:01] <plumbum> пока не началось =)
[01:38:30] <serkon> угу, до пятницы надо
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[02:28:52] <serkon> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/07/lolrio-cart-go-cart.jpg
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[07:27:12] <Amper> Ура! я в городе!
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[08:29:53] <a_winner> re
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[08:59:23] <al3xey> Всем ку
[09:02:55] <a_winner> al3xey,
[09:05:43] <al3xey> Народ. В автоэлектрике кто-нить шарит?
[09:10:06] <al3xey> Вобщем есть иномарка ровер 827. Такая проблема - заводим машину - все работает нормально, проходит минут 10. Перестают работать стеклоподъемники, не двигаются сидения, люк. Глушим машину, заводим, опять все работает.
[09:10:18] <al3xey> Что это может быть?
[09:13:16] <al3xey> И еще. Если отключить одну из клемм (5 проводов) - перестают двигаться сиденья, но все остальное работает отлично
[09:17:03] <al3xey> Вот такой ппц
[09:17:10] <al3xey> :-(
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[09:21:36] <a_winner> al3xey, не знаю, как на ровере, но на ауди есть "блок обеспечения комфорта", он за всё это отвечает
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[09:36:20] <al3xey> Хм
[09:37:03] <vac_13> al3xey: я не спец но по моему это не блок комфорта а блок безопасности
[09:39:55] <a_winner> vac_13, у меян называется именно так :)
[09:41:29] <vac_13> a_winner: мож быть, машины разные.
[09:44:49] <vac_13> А кто-нибудь "мирандой " пользуется?
[09:45:23] <vac_13> ICQ клиент
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[10:00:39] <al3xey> Так а почему вырубается не сразу? А минут через 5-10
[10:01:28] <plumbum> al3xey, где-то неконтактачит при прогреве. Или электролит сдох.
[10:03:44] <vac_13> al3xey: Скорее всего запрограммировано так, вот есть такая штука: когда трогаешься через какое-то время ц. замок срабатывает, мож это?
[10:04:12] <vac_13> Или прошивка слетела, нужно перепрошить.
[10:05:24] <al3xey> А хз
[10:05:35] <al3xey> Даже не знаю где копать
[10:06:05] <vac_13> al3xey: В сервис центр обратись, там наверняка подскажут :)
[10:06:41] <vac_13> А то че нить сделаешь....
[10:06:46] <al3xey> Они скажут, чтоб машину к ним прикатил
[10:07:08] <vac_13> так дешевле, могыт-быть :)
[10:07:31] <al3xey> Наверное так и сделаю
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[10:37:09] <akashihi> привет
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[13:22:36] <creat0r> всем привет!
[13:22:43] <creat0r> у меня тоже автомобильный вопрос :)
[13:23:09] <creat0r> мега сможет ловить байты из порта и слать ответы с точностью 200 мкс ?
[13:23:37] <creat0r> типа, из порта идёт поток слов с промежутками
[13:23:43] <Amper> Хм
[13:23:48] <creat0r> надо в эти промежутки впихнуть ответный байт
[13:24:09] <creat0r> это протокол Ford DCL на EEC-IV
[13:24:27] <creat0r> http://158.143.56.200/~steve/eeciv/ вот этот товарищ исходниками не делится
[13:24:46] <creat0r> обещает .hex, причём с требованием 8к рамы
[13:25:39] <creat0r> помимо этой странички у меня есть полная дока на протокол
[13:25:58] <creat0r> все прочитавшие хором сказали, что это самый сложный протокол, что они видели вообще
[13:27:31] <creat0r> так вот... удастся ли это реализовать через меговский USART или придётся ручками дёргать ножку? :)
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[14:05:53] <divmir> ну слава яйцам
[14:06:01] <xrayman> привет всем
[14:06:38] <plumbum> хай
[14:07:06] <divmir> баловался я тут с фьюзами меги 8 и после чего она перестала определятся. как восстановить?
[14:07:45] <plumbum> divmir, попробовать внешний тактовый генератор. Если не поможет, тогда только через высоковольтное программирование
[14:08:54] <divmir> т.е. кварц к нему? а что такое высоковольтное программирование - это программатор такой?
[14:09:08] <plumbum> divmir, ну да.. нужен специальный программатор.
[14:09:22] <plumbum> divmir, идеально генератор. но можно и кварц попробовать
[14:09:33] <creat0r> а если у меги32 в спеках 1 уарт записан
[14:09:38] <creat0r> то можно ли как-то сделать два?
[14:09:54] <creat0r> не вручную ножками :)
[14:09:55] <divmir> как программатор называется или ссылку на него
[14:10:27] <plumbum> divmir, stk500 =)))
[14:10:57] <divmir> plumbum: by Petka
[14:11:19] <plumbum> creat0r, в ножную ручками =)
[14:11:28] <creat0r> эх
[14:11:28] <plumbum> divmir, нет. Полный =) Который атмеловский =)
[14:11:42] <creat0r> взять мегу324 проще тогда
[14:11:54] <creat0r> кто у нас там самый мощный в дип-корпусе
[14:12:00] <plumbum> creat0r, ну я делал на INT0 и T0 софтовый interrup driver
[14:12:11] <plumbum> driven
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[14:12:21] <creat0r> биты считал?
[14:12:22] <plumbum> ну ты понял короче =)
[14:12:35] <creat0r> наверняка можно готовую либу найти...
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[14:12:42] <plumbum> creat0r, всмысле считал? =) Ну можно найти =)
[14:13:16] <creat0r> ну софтовый уарт это ж всё руками. унюхали бит - сложили в буфер
[14:13:22] <plumbum> divmir, http://www.gaw.ru/html.cgi/txt/app/Atmel/micros/avr/stk500/3_7.htm#3_7_2
[14:13:25] <divmir> plumbum: а STK 200/300 пойдет, через LPT?
[14:13:51] <creat0r> насчитали 10 штук - оформили байтом :)
[14:14:05] <plumbum> divmir, хз... в общем тебе нужен тот который высоковольное умеет =)
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[14:14:31] <creat0r> divmir: дешевле новую мегу купить :)
[14:15:27] <plumbum> creat0r, ну INT0 дёрнулся, прерывание словили. Ставим T0 на полтора бита в интервал, ловим прерывание - читаем бит, ставим T0 на битовый интервал, ловим прерывание - читаем бит. Ну и т.д.
[14:16:37] <creat0r> ясно :)
[14:16:57] <xrayman> типа по таймеру дергаем ногой, чтобы вызвать прерывание?
[14:17:45] <xrayman> или прерывание как отлов стартового бита?
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[14:43:47] <plumbum> xrayman, два перерывания. одно для отлова старт бита, другое для выборки бит (таймер)
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[14:46:33] <xrayman> ну я так и понял :)
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[15:22:40] <al3xey> Ку
[15:25:08] <xrayman> ку
[15:26:26] <Amper> xrayman,
[15:26:34] <Amper> al3xey,
[15:27:10] <xrayman> о_О
[15:27:42] <Amper> xrayman, ?
[15:28:04] <xrayman> что?
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[15:28:29] <Amper> Что о_О?
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[15:28:56] <Elektronik> Robin> Здравствуй СЫНА!
[15:29:01] <Robin> Здорова, ОТЦЫ!
[15:29:06] <xrayman> [14:28:54] <Amper> xrayman,
[15:29:11] <Robin> wz uloo
[15:29:13] <xrayman> што бы это значило?
[15:29:13] <Крошка> Robin: Station name not available - 2009.07.02 1100 UTC / mostly cloudy, 21C/69F, humidity 68%, wind: from the WNW (300 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT), visibility: n/a
[15:29:32] <Robin> wz ulll
[15:29:32] <Крошка> Robin: Нет такого аэропорта.
[15:29:36] <Robin> wz ullo
[15:29:37] <Крошка> Robin: Нет такого аэропорта.
[15:29:43] <Robin> wz ulo
o
[15:29:43] <Крошка> Robin: гы! попробуй еще разок, сына!
[15:29:48] <Robin> wz uloo
[15:29:49] <Крошка> Robin: Station name not available - 2009.07.02 1100 UTC / mostly cloudy, 21C/69F, humidity 68%, wind: from the WNW (300 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT), visibility: n/a
[15:29:57] <Amper> xраыман, И?
[15:30:13] <Robin> Ы?
[15:30:14] <xrayman> о_О
[15:31:00] <Amper> Жуть
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[16:17:11] <mahon> wz unnt
[16:17:13] <Крошка> mahon: Station name not available - 2009.07.02 1200 UTC / 17C/62F, humidity 33%, wind: from the SSW (210 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
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[17:08:15] <al3xey> Есть пик12 и тини24. На каком мк лучше частотометр сделать?
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[18:18:06] <al3xey> Кто-нить пишет на purebasic?
[18:20:44] <xrayman> а што эта?
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[18:27:06] <al3xey> Среда для программирования. Очень удобно маленькие программки писать
[18:41:08] <mahon> на чем?
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[18:41:48] <al3xey> На винде
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[18:45:23] <mahon> писать на чем...
[18:45:59] <al3xey> Бейсик. Типа vb
[18:46:12] <mahon> бэйсик о_О
[18:46:17] <mahon> ну его...
[18:46:26] <al3xey> Зря
[18:46:49] <mahon> си как то приятнее мне
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[18:49:47] <al3xey> Под винду, по крайней мере visualc++, геморой полный
[18:51:05] <al3xey> Но под авр или пик - си рулит :-)
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[20:00:11] <WildCat> фсем привет...
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[20:08:35] <plumbum> WildCat, хай
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[20:11:46] <WildCat> plumbum: чего новенького? я с понедельника в отпуске...:-)
[20:15:02] <plumbum> WildCat, да всё как обычно =) Фобос и деймос =)
[20:15:36] <WildCat> plumbum: это дома или на работе?:-)
[20:16:11] <plumbum> WildCat, и там и там =)
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[20:22:57] <WildCat> plumbum: а что так? где поzитшff?:-)
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[21:32:10] <serkon> ehlo
[21:33:07] <WildCat> serkon: чего? это новая команда для бота?:-)
[21:33:29] <serkon> это расширенный helo протокола smtp
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[21:34:05] <WildCat> serkon: ибануцца-обосрацца....:-)
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[21:42:31] <WildCat> plumbum: ты уже дома?:-)
[21:47:48] <plumbum> WildCat, ну в общем-то да =)
[21:48:50] <plumbum> serkon, суровый воронежские админы шлют почту телнетом? =)
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[21:54:00] <WildCat> plumbum: и далеко у тебя работа от дома?:-)
[21:54:26] <plumbum> WildCat, ну минут 50 ходу
[21:54:33] <plumbum> метропешего
[21:54:40] <WildCat> plumbum: Пешком?:-)
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[21:55:00] <plumbum> WildCat, 20 минут пешком, 30 - метро
[21:55:27] <WildCat> plumbum: хм... я ближе... это если с транспортом... :-)
[21:56:03] <plumbum> WildCat, ну ты и не в Питере =)
[21:56:15] * WildCat отошел пожрать...
[21:57:06] <WildCat> plumbum: аха...:-) но на пути докуя пробок и если попадешь хоть в одну, то на работу приходится бежать...:-(
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[21:57:39] <plumbum> WildCat, не... наземный транспорт - это страшно =)
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[22:03:47] <serkon> plumbum: я не админ, но почту шлю всем чем можно
[22:06:02] <plumbum> serkon, вроде ты говорил что в ISP? =)
[22:06:29] <serkon> я начальник админов! :)
[22:08:11] <WildCat> serkon: а мочалок командир?;-)
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[22:09:18] <plumbum> serkon, ну дык... суперадмин =)
[22:10:18] <serkon> :(
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[22:12:49] <DI HALT> Хей хей!
[22:13:02] <DI HALT> Всем привед, пишу вам из горящего танка...
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[22:13:55] <serkon> hello my friend
[22:14:10] <plumbum> DI HALT, хай.. ну чего у тебя сдохло? =)
[22:15:03] <DI HALT> Да отрубили за неуплату
[22:18:45] <DI HALT> plumbum: чо, как там наше быдло?
[22:21:26] <plumbum> DI HALT, да вроде ему надоело =)
[22:22:27] <DI HALT> ну тогда верни конфу в прежний режим
[22:22:44] <DI HALT> А то я чето не нашел опцию
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[22:26:48] <plumbum> DI HALT, "Сделать пользователей участниками по умолчанию". Надо будет новоприбывших адекватов добавлять в участники
[22:27:07] <plumbum> Члены давать =)
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[22:29:25] <DI HALT> Ааа
[22:29:30] <WildCat> plumbum: а подземный? Как говаривал БенЛаден - "Самолетами в небоскрёбы - это я понимаю, но вот сваями - в метро? Это слишком...":-)
[22:29:33] <DI HALT> просто народ жалуется. ну ты же видел
[22:29:53] <WildCat> DI HALT: Хай:-)
[22:30:28] <DI HALT> WildCat: Превед
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[22:31:01] <plumbum> DI HALT, ага.. поставил уже
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[22:31:14] <plumbum> DI HALT, если что опять - снимешь =)
[22:31:30] <WildCat> DI HALT: чего там у тебя отключили? Инет?
[22:31:42] <plumbum> WildCat, в Питере метро такое, что до него хрен сваей достучишься =)
[22:33:07] <WildCat> plumbum: аха, помню...:-) на какой-то станции (запямятовал) поразила 3-хминутная поездка на эскалаторе, но добила станция с шлюзовыми дверями между поездом и перроном...:-)
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[22:45:58] <plumbum> WildCat, всмысле "лифтовые"? =) Они много где =)
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[22:47:11] <WildCat> plumbum: это вам, питерцам, привычно, а вот мне, провинциалу, было в новинку:-)
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[22:47:26] <DI HALT> WildCat: ага
[22:47:29] <DI HALT> за неуплату
[22:47:57] <WildCat> DI HALT: хм... сильно привык к безлимиту?:-)
[22:48:03] <DI HALT> WildCat: ага
[22:49:50] <WildCat> DI HALT: да уж.... я вот тоже от бедности "изобрел" паяльную станцию - прикрутил к паяльнику диммер, откалибровал шкалу... пока нормально:-)
[22:49:58] <plumbum> WildCat, да я сам не местный =)
[22:50:24] <WildCat> plumbum: панаехали там!:-)
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[22:53:57] * gluker будет в питере в конце месяца
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[23:21:42] <DI HALT> WildCat: обратной связи нет :)
[23:26:34] <WildCat> DI HALT: да, её нет:-) но ведь это же паяльная станция для бедных:-)
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[23:47:30] <DI HALT> а взять термопарку и примотать стеклотканной лентой к жалу?
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[23:48:29] <WildCat> DI HALT: это следующая версия - с контролем температуры:-)
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[23:49:17] <R@D!K> Тогда уж лучше реле времени.
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[23:50:31] <DI HALT> Нафига реле времени?
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[23:51:38] <R@D!K> Вместо термопары. Я у себя так делал.
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[23:55:28] <DI HALT> Так зачем? Тут диммер регулирует
[23:55:32] <DI HALT> а термопара это ОС
[23:56:54] <R@D!K> А.. Ясно.
[23:57:35] <gluker> http://www.instructables.com/id/Soldering-Station/