Monday, January 04, 2010
[00:01:03] <Legath> про CAN на русском кто нибудь что либо хорошее и адекватное находил?
[00:01:32] <0leg.> Спасибо что помогли.Ото интерес мучал в этой отрасли. Как оно бывает интерес однако
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[00:01:53] <serj> ну вот стуктурка есть http://canbuskit.com/images/diag_canbus2.jpg
[00:02:02] <serj> машинки и шины CAN
[00:03:08] <serj> http://www.bridgwater-electronics.co.uk/can-bus/images/canbus_introduction.jpg
[00:05:39] <serj> http://www.cast-inc.com/cores/can/can-block.jpg
[00:06:27] <serj> http://www.softing.com/home/images/ia/products/can-bus/more-can-bus/communication-principles/bus-arbitration-method.gif
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[00:07:11] <serj> распиновка сервисного разъема http://www.topkodas.lt/images/EBAY/CANBUS_TR_CON.jpg
[00:07:45] <serj> контроллер USB-can http://www.e-lab.de/diverse/CANportExp.jpg
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[00:15:19] <Mr. Teapot> Кайф... Лежу в горячей ванне в полумраке, рядом кот мурчит и рация помигивает зеленым...
[00:16:05] <Mr. Teapot> пинг
[00:16:07] <Elektronik> Mr. Teapot: понг от тебя 0.787 секунд
[00:16:40] <gleb> Mr. Teapot: у меня эрекция чуть не началась:)
[00:16:52] <serj> Mr. Teapot: какую частоту слушаешь?
[00:17:04] <Mr. Teapot> две сразу
[00:17:17] <Mr. Teapot> 145550 и 430500
[00:17:21] <gleb> Mr. Teapot: если б там вместо тебя что-нить поженственнее лежало - другое дело:)
[00:17:54] <Mr. Teapot> нех в моей ванне женственному просто так лежать :-)
[00:18:00] <serj> Mr. Teapot: а рация какая?)
[00:18:09] <serj> не FT-60R ?
[00:18:11] <serj> :D
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[00:18:25] <Mr. Teapot> serj: а ты радиогубитель?
[00:19:15] <Mr. Teapot> serj: не угадал. Wouxun KG-UVD1
[00:19:27] <serj> каеш губитель)
[00:19:33] <serj> я стока всего уничтожил))
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[00:19:59] <Mr. Teapot> Китай. С ФМ радио и светодиодным фонариком :-)
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[00:21:18] <serj> у меня китаенвуд был)
[00:21:23] <serj> но утонул к сожалению)
[00:21:35] <serj> теперь FT-60R Vertex )
[00:21:55] <serj> классная штукуевина
[00:22:06] <serj> 108-999 МГц
[00:22:08] <serj> :D
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[00:22:17] <serj> два канала слушать умеет
[00:22:27] <Mr. Teapot> И моя ;-)
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[00:22:53] <Mr. Teapot> 125 укуренных енотов отстегнул
[00:22:57] <EvAngel> hi all
[00:23:25] <gleb> EvAngel: и вам хи
[00:23:36] <serj> Mr. Teapot: а 172-173 слушаешь? ) 411-413 ? :)
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[00:24:06] <serj> авиадиапазон тоже интересно)
[00:24:57] <Legath> на нее разрешение нужно?
[00:27:19] <Mr. Teapot> serj: а че тама?
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[00:27:55] <Mr. Teapot> Legath: а в госинспекции электросвязи оформлял
[00:29:32] <serj> ну менты
[00:29:34] <serj> скорая
[00:29:36] <serj> :)
[00:29:58] <serj> 150-180 вообще очень насыщенный диапазон)
[00:30:06] <serj> там радиоохрана и чо тока нет
[00:30:18] <serj> через 25 кГц надо сканировать
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[00:44:38] <serj> <Legath> на нее разрешение нужно? - ну чтоб все официально было надо на 4ю категорию сдавать
[00:44:49] <serj> и регистрировать станцию
[00:44:52] <serj> :)
[00:45:01] <Legath> а в чем состоит сдача?
[00:45:26] <serj> ну фонетическую азбуку надо знать, закон ома, распространение радиоволн
[00:45:37] <serj> ну кароче базовые скиллы радиогубителя
[00:45:39] <serj> должны быть
[00:45:43] <serj> :)
[00:45:57] <Legath> я по образованию инженер-радиотехник ))))
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[00:46:43] <Legath> только нам никогда ни про какие категории не говорили
[00:47:10] <serj> ну это немножко другое
[00:47:20] <serj> тут образование не причем
[00:47:22] <serj> :)
[00:49:53] <serj> это же хобби
[00:50:02] <serj> многие им занимаюца безо всякого спец образования
[00:50:11] <serj> и получают радиолюбительские категории
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[00:51:41] <Legath> ясно, значит прорвусь )
[00:51:55] <Legath> вот кстати интересную книгу нашел http://www.infanata.org/civil/hardware/1146119269-usb-v-yelektronike.html
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[00:55:42] <gleb> http://www.all-ebooks.com/2010/01/01/85813-jelektroshokery.-polnoe.html
[00:55:57] <gleb> тоже полезная книженция
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[01:05:26] <Mr. Teapot> Прикольная хрень аэрозольный лак :-)
[01:06:30] <Legath> я так смотрю в ванной все таки что то женственное лежало раз про лак тема промелькнула
[01:06:49] <Mr. Teapot> serj: акриловый лак
[01:07:36] <serj> ?
[01:07:53] <gleb> http://www.all-ebooks.com/2009/11/21/77599-mikrokontrollery-avr-semejjstv.html
[01:08:17] <Mr. Teapot> serj: у мны есть и президент горбачёв :-)
[01:08:43] <Mr. Teapot> serj: то я Легату про лак хотел написать
[01:09:01] <serj> а
[01:09:12] <serj> михал сергеич?)
[01:09:35] <Mr. Teapot> Акриловый прозрачный лак. 200 мл баллон, типа цапона. Плату прогера задул ним -- супер :-)
[01:09:47] <Mr. Teapot> serj: Р-123М :-)
[01:10:10] <serj> :D
[01:10:56] <Legath> никогда не сталкивался, у акрила вроде структура матовая
[01:12:01] <Legath> у меня с кармой что то, кварцы не стартуют
[01:14:46] <gleb> http://www.all-ebooks.com/2007/02/12/praktika_programmirovaniya_usb_cdrom.html
[01:14:59] <gleb> В книге собрана информация, необходимая для создания USB-устройств и драйверов для операционной системы Microsoft Windows 2000/XP. Рассмотрен процесс создания USB-устройства: от написания программы микроконтроллера (примеры реализованы для микропроцессора AT89C5131) до разработки собственного WDM-драйвера. Содержится описание специальных классов устройств: HID-класс, позволяющий обойтись без разработки драйвера, и класс CDC, позволяющий работать с USB как с обычным COM-портом. Рассмотрено использование функций Raw Input, Direct Input и Setup API, содержится большое количество практических советов и примеров программ на языках Delphi, C и C#. Для удобства читателей все исходные коды приводятся на прилагаемом компакт-диске.
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[01:36:14] <Mr. Teapot> Legath: а как скачать книгу? ведь не вижу ссылку
[01:36:33] <Legath> на инфанате регаться надо
[01:36:58] <Mr. Teapot> ёпта...
[01:37:10] <Mr. Teapot> ненавижу такие ресурсы
[01:38:45] <serj> и они тебя не любят
[01:38:48] <serj> скорей всего
[01:38:51] <serj> )
[01:39:48] <gleb> serj: :-)
[01:40:54] <Mr. Teapot> ха. нашёл где скачать без всякой реги
[01:41:30] <Mr. Teapot> serj: ну вот ты мне скажи -- накуя мне регацца на их сайте ради одной-единственной книги?
[01:42:19] <gleb> Mr. Teapot: там много книг
[01:42:24] <serj> чтоб быть в числе их юзеров
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[01:43:06] <Mr. Teapot> serj: а накуя мне быть их юзером?
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[01:57:11] * serkon покатался на ниве с шиповками нокиан
[01:57:13] <serkon> нифига не прикольно
[01:59:50] <serkon> wz uuoo
[01:59:53] <Крошка> serkon: Voronez, Russia - 2010.01.03 2230 UTC / -19C/-2F, humidity 84%, wind: from the NW (320 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
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[02:06:22] <Mr. Teapot> serj: занят?
[02:09:52] <Mr. Teapot> serkon: а разве прерывания разрешаются командой "sei" а не "sti"?
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[02:10:39] <Legath> sei конечно
[02:11:06] <Legath> set enable interrupts если не ошибаюсь
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[02:12:54] <serkon> sti это на х86
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[02:14:00] <Mr. Teapot> да блин... есть значит отличия... :-)
[02:14:56] <Legath> не знаю за что браться в оставшееся праздники, то ли Visual C++, то ли PIC C....
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[02:15:51] <serkon> лучше за водку
[02:16:21] <Legath> неприемлю я яд этот
[02:16:37] <serkon> а надо
[02:16:41] <gleb> за сиську еще лучше
[02:17:12] <Legath> не напоминай, после новогодней ночи еще язык болит ))))
[02:18:16] <serkon> извращенцы
[02:18:40] <gleb> главное чтоб попа не болела:)
[02:18:52] <Legath> у меня не болела )))))))))))))))))))
[02:18:53] <serkon> -19 на машине практически без печки это оказывается не сильно тепло. точнее, рулить тепло, а вот ноги в берцах и двух носках подмерзают...
[02:18:54] <Mr. Teapot> Legath: а чё это ты языком делал? :-)
[02:19:02] <serkon> как что? разговаривал
[02:19:09] <Mr. Teapot> ггг
[02:19:21] <Legath> Mr. Teapot, во во, уж ответили
[02:19:33] <serkon> что еще можно делать языком ночью
[02:19:39] <serkon> особенно с женщинами
[02:19:42] <Legath> новогодней тем более
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[02:19:50] <serkon> о, понедельник уже...
[02:20:10] <Legath> у меня уже 2 часа как понедельник
[02:20:40] <serkon> у меня 0221 ;)
[02:21:05] <Legath> а ты в какой галактике, что время четырехзначное?
[02:21:14] <serkon> воронеж! :)
[02:21:24] <serkon> у нас тут сурово
[02:21:34] <Legath> это в созвездии персея?
[02:21:50] <gleb> serkon: много великих людей взросли в воронеже
[02:22:26] <serkon> The project is to make Universal SCSI controller with standard parts. It consists of 2 AVR controller one for the parallel SCSI interface, the other for the target and logical unit functions.
Micro controller:
ATMega64
мама...
[02:22:29] <gleb> юра хой например
[02:23:08] <Legath> пойду я пожалуй продолжать дело ктулху
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[02:24:17] <Mr. Teapot> ну я вот, к примеру, много чего могу делать с женщиной ночью языком...
[02:26:02] <gleb> Mr. Teapot: марки на конверты клеить
[02:26:58] * serkon иногда тоже не прочь поклеить марок
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[02:32:40] <gleb> аккумулятор 7 а/ч на 12 вольт
[02:33:10] <gleb> 6 крышек. сковыриваешь одну - под ней резиновый колпачок
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[02:33:35] <gleb> сковыриваешь колпачек - под ним электролит должен быть?
[02:33:50] <serkon> посвети, посмотри в дырку, пластины видны?
[02:34:35] <gleb> чета видно, не пойму
[02:34:52] <gleb> маленькая цука
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[02:35:43] <gleb> аккум на кз дает 0.12 ампера. ему три года уже. есть смысл чета с ним делать или просто выкинуть?
[02:36:02] <serkon> а напруга?
[02:36:14] <gleb> на холостом напруга 13 с хвостом
[02:36:21] <serkon> хреново
[02:36:33] <serkon> но можешь попробовать разряжать-заряжать десяток циклов
[02:36:51] <serkon> или дистиллировки долить
[02:36:53] <gleb> переворачиваю с него не течет даже ничего
[02:37:10] <serkon> он гелевый, не должен течь
[02:37:28] <gleb> ага.
[02:38:01] <gleb> емкость не вернет наверное все равно.
[02:38:15] <gleb> треть может половину при удаче большой
[02:38:23] <gleb> как думаешь?
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[02:38:37] <serkon> скорее всего да
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[02:38:57] <gleb> ну и хрен с ним. дистиллят жалко:)
[02:39:20] <gleb> колпачки резиновые сниму мож пригодятся где
[02:39:26] <serkon> :)
[02:40:02] <gleb> уж больно они кайфовые:)
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[02:43:02] <gleb> а на других аккумах вобще таких крышечек нет. этот какой-то навороченный.
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[02:48:47] <serkon> ой, спать пора
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[02:55:57] <gleb> serkon: какой спать
[02:56:05] <gleb> сейчас мозг лучше всего работает
[02:56:07] <serkon> три ночи
[02:56:11] <serkon> мозг никогда не работает
[02:56:15] <serkon> его вообще не существует
[02:56:51] <gleb> действительно
[02:56:53] <gleb> :)
[02:59:23] <gleb> я так и подозревал что все это выдумки
[02:59:28] <gleb> костная ткань
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[03:00:59] <serkon> да. спать. прощай
[03:01:52] <gleb> serkon: прощай
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[03:45:49] <gleb> пиздуна гонять не будем сегодня?
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[03:55:49] <EvAngel> gleb: наверно
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[06:05:02] <ΞCAH_GARANKΞ> 8-)
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[06:05:30] <ΞCAH_GARANKΞ> 8-)
[06:05:42] <gleb> ΞCAH_GARANKΞ: тише жуй народ разбудишь
[06:07:05] <ΞCAH_GARANKΞ> «voffk has set the subject to: Всех с Новым годом!!! Пусть все же он будет лучше прошлых лет и будет без плохих сюрпризов :) Давайте верить в чудеса! | По темам постов в комменты http://easyelectronics.ru/ и только туда. А если просто потрепацо, то сюда. Велкам! | Логи комнаты http://bots.tuxotronic.org/talisman/logs/easyelectronics@conference.jabber.ru/»
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[07:01:28] <gleb> serj: что у тебя за клиент?
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[07:26:19] <EvAngel> gleb: Psi 0,14
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[07:33:36] <gleb> EvAngel: это линух?
[07:33:53] <EvAngel> ща на винду ищу
[07:34:02] <EvAngel> злобная хня :)
[07:34:31] <gleb> EvAngel: кто злобная хня? пси, винда или линух?:)
[07:35:21] <EvAngel> там и винда и никс и макос
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[07:36:11] <gleb> зашел к линуксоидам в комнату, чета дрыхнут все
[07:36:35] <EvAngel> :)
[07:37:03] <gleb> хочу посоветоваться какой дистрибутив выбрать
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[07:38:27] <Denizo> Утра доброго, дамы и их кавалеры. 8-)
[07:38:46] <gleb> тут тока их кавалеры кажись
[07:39:21] <EvAngel> :)
[07:39:25] <EvAngel> Denizo: хи
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[07:40:55] <gleb> Крошка: ты дама или кавалер?
[07:41:00] <Крошка> gleb: В справочниках...
[07:41:09] <Denizo> gleb: Ну да, конфа технического направления, сразу как-то не догадался.
[07:41:19] <gleb> Крошка: понятно что в справочниках. ты штаны спусти поглядеть
[07:41:20] <Крошка> gleb: люди месяцы пропадаю...
[07:41:29] <gleb> Крошка: понятно все с тобой
[07:41:31] <Крошка> gleb: Ну например если поштучно!
[07:41:47] <gleb> Denizo: видишь, одна дама и у той с бошкой не порядок:)
[07:42:00] <EvAngel> :)
[07:42:25] <gleb> wz urss
[07:42:25] <Крошка> gleb: Adler, Russia - 2010.01.04 0430 UTC / light rain showers; Cumulonimbus clouds observed, 7C/44F, humidity 93%, wind: from the E (080 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[07:42:36] <gleb> колотун ака!
[07:42:46] <EvAngel> че за urss ?
[07:42:52] <EvAngel> :)
[07:43:05] <gleb> сочи адлерский аэропорт
[07:43:20] <EvAngel> гг
[07:43:57] <gleb> Denizo: а ты просто мимоходом или тоже технического направления?
[07:44:14] <EvAngel> скорасть 25кб/с бида :(
[07:44:22] <EvAngel> жадные обменики
[07:44:47] <gleb> EvAngel: у меня на такую скорость в отличную погоду при параде планет не выходит даже
[07:45:12] <gleb> максимум 10, ну бывает 20 крайне редко
[07:45:13] <Denizo> gleb: Да-ж не знаю. По компьютерам точно не специалист. :)
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[07:45:46] <gleb> Denizo: а с паяльником дружишь?
[07:45:49] <EvAngel> gleb: 410 макс :р
[07:46:24] <EvAngel> 100 отдача
[07:46:37] <gleb> EvAngel: у меня в 100 метрах от дома 3Г ловит, там все в порядке. а у меня ну никак падла...
[07:47:13] <EvAngel> ловит этокак ?
[07:47:15] <gleb> горы...
[07:47:30] <gleb> сотовая сеть. 3G
[07:47:39] <EvAngel> гг в топку её
[07:48:00] <gleb> может антенну поставят 4G будет ловить. надеюсь.
[07:48:08] <EvAngel> :)
[07:48:15] <EvAngel> луще мачту выставб
[07:48:18] <EvAngel> *ь
[07:48:43] <gleb> мачта есть. что на нее крепить только
[07:48:57] <EvAngel> мобильник
[07:49:00] <EvAngel> :)
[07:49:06] <gleb> классно:)
[07:49:14] <EvAngel> или мапед 3Г
[07:49:23] <EvAngel> с ЮСБ удлинителем
[07:49:25] <Denizo> gleb: Паять нечего. А чего-то хотелось бы. Паяльник вместе с оловом и канифолью в шкафу лежит. Брал, что-бы РС собирать. :D Но потом с нужным человеком не стал дружить, всё остановилось. :'(
[07:50:04] <gleb> Denizo: а живешь где? с детальками как дела обстоят?
[07:50:07] <EvAngel> Denizo: нуна самаму как нить выучитсО
[07:50:39] <EvAngel> если как у меня 200км до радио рынка то хз :)
[07:51:27] <gleb> EvAngel: активных удлинителей надо попробовать
[07:52:18] <Denizo> gleb: Краснодарском крае. Деталей много в соседнем Армавире. Проблема не в том. Денег нет, чтобы свои радио-интересы развивать.
[07:52:48] <Denizo> » EvAngel> Denizo: нуна самаму как нить выучитсО
Так же неинтересно...
[07:53:03] <EvAngel> gleb: а луще че нить соорудить 3Г мапед и какую нить точку забамбить штоб далеку провада не таскать
[07:53:08] <gleb> Denizo: о, сосед:) ну смотри, туда сюда примерно тысячи полторы понадобится чтоб укомплектоваться по минимуму, начать
[07:53:20] <EvAngel> Denizo: сам патиху учусь :)
[07:53:36] <EvAngel> Denizo: тока не паять а в АСМ кавырятся
[07:53:49] <gleb> EvAngel: да мопед же к точке просто так не примандячишь. надо что-то дорогое покупать.
[07:53:55] <EvAngel> паять примерно 7 лет напаялсО
[07:54:17] <EvAngel> gleb: есть точка с ЮСБ
[07:54:29] <gleb> EvAngel: асусовская кажется?
[07:54:41] <EvAngel> там правда АДСЛ мапед ешо прикручен
[07:54:51] <EvAngel> gleb: длинг видял у чела
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[07:56:00] <gleb> точка есть у меня. лучше на чердачке компик засратенький поставлю и будет он у меня сетевым шлюзом. но прежде чем эту бадягу разводить сползаю ка я на чердачет, прием проверю...
[07:56:09] <EvAngel> пайду ПСИ запускать :)
[07:56:20] <gleb> *чердачек
[07:56:53] * gleb упол на чердачеГ
[07:58:26] <EvAngel> ща вернусь
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[08:02:02] <EvAngel> во как
[08:02:04] <gleb> куюшки. чердачеГ показал полное отсутствие 3Г...
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[08:02:54] <gleb> но это мегавонь. можно еще этих мтс-овских барбосов проверить и пчелайн. может кто из них поймает
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[08:07:37] <EvAngel> пси некая прыкольная
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[08:08:34] <gleb> EvAngel: ты с нее?
[08:08:41] <EvAngel> угу
[08:09:14] <EvAngel> тут даж прозрачность есть :)
[08:09:48] <gleb> прозрачность чего?
[08:10:28] <EvAngel> окна
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[08:11:11] <gleb> у квипа контакт лист прозрачный
[08:12:05] <EvAngel> както хз
[08:12:16] <EvAngel> пайду миранду памучаю
[08:12:40] <gleb> миринду
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[08:14:40] <EvAngel> Даж так
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[08:33:29] <EvAngel> На миранде остановлюсь паходу :)
[08:34:47] <gleb> хорошая?
[08:35:28] <EvAngel> вроде
[08:35:36] <sevasat> нормуль.
[08:35:55] <EvAngel> Ща тока скин окан поменяю на чорны и буду фанатеть :)
[08:36:17] <sevasat> пси весящий под 30 метров сосет. не говоря об куипе =)
[08:36:22] <EvAngel> Найти бы тока :В
[08:36:42] <sevasat> а у миня без скина, а-ля вин 95 =)
[08:36:51] <EvAngel> :)
[08:37:26] <sevasat> зато 3.6 метра в памяти ICQ+Jabber
[08:37:55] <gleb> а линк прямой можете дать
[08:38:09] <EvAngel> На что ?
[08:38:33] <sevasat> miranda-im.org вроде
[08:38:50] <EvAngel> гу
[08:39:21] <gleb> чтоб тыкнуть и пошла закачка, у меня дешевый инет кончился:)
[08:39:46] <sevasat> только советую из офф.пака выпилить все ненужные плагины, коихтам в изобилии.типо гаду-гаду, гТалк и прочия
[08:39:51] <sevasat> ща
[08:40:22] <sevasat> http://miranda.googlecode.com/files/miranda-im-v0.8.11-unicode.exe
[08:40:31] <sevasat> 1.7 метра
[08:40:32] <gleb> sevasat: пасиба:)
[08:40:36] <EvAngel> Пайду другую юзану :)
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[08:41:45] <MadShed> Привет народ =)
[08:42:06] <gleb> MadShed: доброе утро.
[08:42:15] <MadShed> Ураа =) Я наконец-то смог завести себе бота в конфу =)
[08:42:27] <sevasat> gleb: там в каталоге куда становиш будет папка плагинов.там куча всего ненужного
[08:42:44] <gleb> sevasat: ок
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[08:43:14] <Крошка> MadShed: Station name not available - 2010.01.04 0500 UTC / -19C/-2F, humidity 84%, wind: from the N (350 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[08:43:27] <MadShed> Тяпло =))))
[08:43:37] <sevasat> ирка, gadu-gadu, gtalk, weather, мылору агент
[08:43:56] <sevasat> хехе -19 =)
[08:44:12] <MadShed> sevasat: У меня и на Инфиуме Ирка есть =)
[08:44:23] <sevasat> мы про миранду =)
[08:45:02] <sevasat> у меня в ней только аська и жаббер остальное повыпиливал ибо нах ненадо
[08:45:09] <MadShed> sevasat: Я в курсе =)
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[08:46:02] <MadShed> У меня там докуя всего =) Две аськи, два жаббера, агент и ирк=)
[08:46:26] <sevasat> а у меня с иркой как-то не сложились отношения =)
[08:46:41] <MadShed> Так скажем всё Рабочие инструменты =)
[08:46:51] <sevasat> кстати, просто интересно сколько инфинум жрет мозгов?
[08:47:51] <MadShed> sevasat: У меня при всём запущенном 6.5метров =)
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[08:48:03] <sevasat> нормуль =)
[08:48:52] <MadShed> Та при 2Гб оперативы ент не суть важно =)
[08:48:56] <sevasat> я поначалу пожд жаббер psi юзал.но 30 метров-както многовато дляодного протокола
[08:49:02] <sevasat> ну эт да =)
[08:49:20] <sevasat> у миня епись 701просто.критично место на херде
[08:49:40] <sevasat> харде. а мозгов 2гиг плашка стоит давно уж
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[08:50:30] <MadShed> Ну у мя ноут не расчитан на игры =) Поентому 2 гигов докуя =)
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[08:51:00] <MadShed> sevasat: Хоть и лицензионная Виста стоит =)
[08:51:02] <sevasat> можно подумать 701 епись расчитан =))))
[08:51:08] <sevasat> на игры
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[09:27:35] <EvAngel> ваыавы
[09:27:42] <EvAngel> Флуд :)
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[09:33:20] <EvAngel> Харош ужо флудить :)
[09:33:27] <EvAngel> Вроде настроилсО
[09:33:43] <EvAngel> 6,5 м в памяти :\
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[10:12:12] * gleb починил монитор сам не понял как и теперь сидит пялится в два монитора...
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[10:14:29] <MadShed> gleb: Монитор обычно чинитсо ударами руками и такой-то матери =)
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[10:15:21] <gleb> MadShed: мне чакры крафтеныша помогли:) он сказал - разбирай, куля на него смотреть:) разобрал, включаю - работает:)
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[10:15:53] <MadShed> gleb: Гг =)
[10:16:22] <EvAngel> Блин у меня глюк в миранде :)
[10:16:39] <gleb> EvAngel: ну вот...
[10:16:54] <EvAngel> Не открывается окно беседы если тыркнуть на ковонить 2х
[10:17:34] <EvAngel> Gleb: открой окно беседы самной
[10:17:38] <gleb> а зачем на двух тыркать?
[10:19:14] <gleb> EvAngel: не получил?
[10:19:19] <EvAngel> неа
[10:19:30] <EvAngel> Ты свалился камне в кантакт лист
[10:19:36] <gleb> а я тебе там войну и мир уже написал в журнальном варианте
[10:19:54] <EvAngel> Ешо раз тыркни
[10:20:35] <gleb> EvAngel: давай с терминологией определимся. тыркнуть - личную беседу в чате завести?:)
[10:20:54] <EvAngel> хз
[10:21:14] <gleb> EvAngel: ну тогда я тебя уже три раза тыркнул
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[10:22:29] <EvAngel> Ща перезайду
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[10:23:33] <EvAngel/EvAngelx> Во тварь :(
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[10:26:10] <gleb> gleb/EvAngelx: эт как?..
[10:26:14] <gleb/EvAngelx> гг
[10:26:20] <gleb/EvAngelx> дибилизм
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[10:26:31] <gleb> ставь квип и не мучайся:)
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[10:27:28] <Dema> лучше gajim :)
[10:27:34] <Dema> и убунту до кучи :)
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[10:32:40] <MadShed> gleb: Или Виртус =)
[10:32:57] <gleb> MadShed: виртус не слышал даже
[10:34:39] <MadShed> gleb: http://virtus.rambler.ru/
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[11:04:21] <gleb> господа уважаемые, есть кто мониторы ремонтировал?
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[11:15:24] <MadShed> gleb: Ну я пыталсо =)
[11:16:29] <MadShed> Но у мя строчник наипнулсо, а кода нашел ему замену плюнул на енто дело и купил себе 19" 971Р самсунг =)
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[11:22:26] <gleb> MadShed: вот у меня подсветка на жк нае...
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[11:23:15] <MadShed> gleb: Ааа =) Его я ещё не разбирал =)
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[11:24:14] <EvAngel> Да че за ....
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[11:30:36] <Mr. Teapot> С говым годом!
[11:30:46] <Mr. Teapot> Пинг
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[11:33:27] <Mr. Teapot> пинг
[11:33:28] <Elektronik> Mr. Teapot: понг от тебя 0.346 секунд
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[11:36:12] <MadShed> пинг
[11:36:13] <Elektronik> MadShed: понг от тебя 0.075 секунд
[11:36:38] <Mr. Teapot> пинг
[11:36:38] <Elektronik> Mr. Teapot: понг от тебя 0.406 секунд
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[11:59:05] <gleb> народ, кто проснулся мож кто ремонтировал ЛСД мониторы?
[11:59:11] <microxa> хмхм.. чет материнки на Intel-ах всех порвали. по стабильности и четкости работы
[12:00:08] <microxa> gleb: один раз успешно. и раза три - неуспешно
[12:00:33] <gleb> microxa: подсветка выключается. успешно?
[12:01:00] <microxa> а. то есть она кой как пашет?
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[12:01:41] <gleb> microxa: включается нормально, потом начинает мерцать и при этом трансформатор который повышающий шуршит потом вырубается. все занимает 10 секунд
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[12:02:54] <microxa> мож мопсет который на раскачке этого транса придушился. или.. электролит высох. или. или. чтото с трансформатором.
[12:03:19] <microxa> мож рассохся. или феррит деградировал
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[12:03:30] <microxa> или межвитковое чево
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[12:04:13] <microxa> а то мож и диод шоткий. что выпрямляет
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[12:04:45] <microxa> вобщем паять перепаивать до синих соплей
[12:04:49] <gleb> как бы с чего начать. диод просто прозвонить или поменять на аналогичный?
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[12:05:20] <microxa> менять. они могут звониться как нормальные ток никуя не работать.
[12:05:35] <microxa> тут куй ево маму знает.
[12:05:49] <gleb> понятно. спасибо.
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[12:05:59] <gleb> дело ясное что дело темное:)
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[12:13:49] <gleb> а на трансе повышающем на первичной что должно быть примерно хоть?
[12:14:53] <microxa> в импульсе вольт ~20
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[12:16:26] <gleb> со схемой мало что совпадает, прискорбно...
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[12:18:19] <microxa> ну там еще микруха с Шим. регулирует напругу.
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[13:03:15] <serkon> gleb: управляющий сигнал на входе платки проверил?
[13:03:44] * exception13 купил антенну
[13:03:57] <exception13> serkon:
[13:04:13] <serkon> exception13: o
[13:05:22] <microxa> exception13: ртутную?
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[13:06:36] <exception13> microxa: нет :) торсионщина не для меня :)
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[13:11:10] <serkon> богатенький
[13:17:22] <exception13> так
[13:17:40] <exception13> надеюсь для сопряжения ничего делать не надо?
[13:17:53] <exception13> тупо на кабель припаять SMA разъем и все?
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[13:20:21] <serkon> если импеданс совпадает
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[13:21:26] <exception13> serkon: ну тут только оканцовка у кабеля другая
[13:21:55] <Cluster> утро :)
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[13:29:03] <MadShed> Храждане!
[13:29:10] <MadShed> Нуно совет дать!
[13:32:29] <DI HALT> а?
[13:32:39] <DI HALT> как продать почку за лекрой
?
[13:34:41] <MadShed> Нет =) Мне нуно ижица с заменами Moeller'а на ИЭК =)
[13:36:56] <serkon> wz uuoo
[13:36:58] <Крошка> serkon: Voronez, Russia - 2010.01.04 1000 UTC / -17C/1F, humidity 77%, wind: from the NW (310 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[13:37:20] <MadShed> wz uuob
[13:37:21] <Крошка> MadShed: Station name not available - 2010.01.04 1000 UTC / -16C/3F, humidity 77%, wind: from the NNW (340 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[13:37:22] <gleb> serkon: есть управляющий. транс шуршит сука
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[13:44:19] <exception13> serkon: антенна няшная 1.85м длина :)
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[13:45:04] <serkon> [13:41]<***> чувак молчал молчал, говорю "вас не слышно попробуйте перезвонить", и он отвечает "щас перезвоню"
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Перезагрузился?
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[13:56:39] <serkon> to kill or not to kill
[13:59:22] <DI HALT> http://ru.trinixy.ru/pics4/20100104/podborka_97.jpg
[14:00:24] <serkon> we don't need to multiply
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[14:14:19] <serkon> science has failed the world
[14:14:28] <serkon> science has failed our mother earth
[14:19:48] <exception13> так
[14:19:59] <exception13> надеюсь пайка не отвалится во время эксплуатации
[14:20:08] <exception13> надо нормальный разъем
[14:20:11] <serkon> не надейся. отвалится.
[14:20:15] <exception13> ггг
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[14:20:26] <exception13> SMA в продаже блин не было
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[14:20:35] <MadShed> Народамана! =) Никто чтоль не работал с ИЭКом??? =)\
[14:20:39] <exception13> пришлось взять дешевую антенну для портативки и разобрат ее
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[14:21:55] <Serj[PowerOFF]> MadShed: иек говно
[14:21:58] <Serj[PowerOFF]> )
[14:22:09] <MadShed> Serj[PowerOFF]: Та я понимаю! =)
[14:22:28] <MadShed> Мне нужно комплектовку Moeller на ИЭК перевести=)
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[14:24:29] <MadShed> Шкаф с Моеллером стоит 1К5 евров =) А ент не есть хорошо
[14:25:06] <Serj[PowerOFF]> а шкаф с иеком работать не будет
[14:25:13] <Serj[PowerOFF]> )
[14:25:19] <MadShed> Serj[PowerOFF]: Это уже не мои проблемы =)
[14:25:20] <Serj[PowerOFF]> точнее будет. как перемычки)
[14:25:33] <MadShed> Клиент хочет - клиент получит =)
[14:25:41] <Serj[PowerOFF]> говнеца
[14:25:51] <Serj[PowerOFF]> я вообще подозреваю
[14:25:54] <Serj[PowerOFF]> что иек китайский
[14:26:42] <MadShed> Serj[PowerOFF]: Могу тебя расстороить но и АББ и Легранд и Моеллер делается тоже в Китае =)
[14:27:19] <serkon> пора стирать носки...
[14:30:31] <serkon> пойду в гараж
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[14:42:05] <Mr. Teapot> MadShed: а что делается не в китае?
[14:45:38] <Serj[PowerOFF]> MadShed: китай разный бывает
[14:45:51] <Serj[PowerOFF]> бывает нормальные изделия
[14:45:53] <Serj[PowerOFF]> как авв
[14:46:00] <Serj[PowerOFF]> а бывает говнокитай
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[14:55:50] <gleb> вот блин... нашел в инете "если монитор при включении горит розовым - неисправны лампы подсветки". че я зря ебусь чтоль?
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[15:17:34] <DI HALT> http://vmoment.ru/201001555031959.png
нуко все кто может показали свои ряхи :)
[15:17:46] <DI HALT> ваще офигенский сайтег vmoment.ru =)
[15:18:22] <DI HALT> правда у кого нет вебкамеры он будет бесполезен
[15:18:49] <MadShed> DI HALT: http://vmoment.ru/20100155603401.png
[15:19:08] <Dema_> лично у меня прям на аватаре фотка :)
[15:19:10] <MadShed> DI HALT: Маленький рях у меня =)
[15:20:12] <DI HALT> а у меня аватары не кажут
[15:20:52] <Dema_> в это плане gajim вне конкуренции :)
[15:21:51] <DI HALT> Dema_: ну я их отрубаю сознательно. Шоб траффик не ели
[15:22:09] <Dema_> ааа..
[15:22:35] <EvAngel> ггг
[15:23:05] <Dema_> DI HALT, а если зайти в инфу о пользователе, там показывает?..
[15:23:07] <DI HALT> ААААААААААА ЛУЧ АНАЛЬНЫХ КАР создателям акробат ридера 9
[15:23:10] <gleb> http://gleb-m.front.ru/05.JPG вот он я
[15:23:21] <DI HALT> и тем мудакам кто его предоустановил
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[15:23:32] <EvAngel> Gleb: :)
[15:23:39] <DI HALT> Масква?
[15:24:13] <gleb> DI HALT: я?
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[15:25:51] <DI HALT> статуя
[15:26:01] <DI HALT> вроде где то там видел ее или я ошибаюсь?
[15:26:02] <gleb> нахрен этот монитор с его инвертором и лампами. если руки дойдут сделаю светодиодную подсветку. инверторы - говно. сколько неисправностей было - 70% инвертор, 20 блок питания и 10 чета другое
[15:26:16] <gleb> DI HALT: в сочи она стоит. да может их миллион по стране:)
[15:26:47] <DI HALT> gleb: как бы еще защиту убрать. А то у меня тоже есть моник, тоже инвертер. Точнее лампы погорели. Вот надо бы светики туда вмандить, а без инвертера не стартует монитор
[15:27:20] <DI HALT> http://f376.chat.ru/T35.txt
вот шедевральная вещь
[15:27:55] <gleb> надо репу чесать. как-то его нае наверное можно
[15:27:56] <DI HALT> ыыы нашел свою статистику GPRS траффика за 2005 год. Еще когда траф был по 9р за мегабайт исходящий+входящий
http://f376.chat.ru/displ.jpg
[15:28:39] <EvAngel> DI HALT: 54 дня ?
[15:29:34] <DI HALT> а? гдет месяца за четыре наверное
[15:29:48] <DI HALT> не это не непреревный. просто суммировался
[15:29:57] <EvAngel> :)
[15:29:59] <gleb> а в принципе че его нае, можно блок питания смастерить там 12 5 и 3.3 вольта
[15:30:25] <EvAngel> Gleb: -5 -12
[15:30:33] <EvAngel> Gleb: ешо забыл :)
[15:31:04] <DI HALT> http://f376.chat.ru/K/lakomka.jpg
ыыы
[15:31:14] <EvAngel> бугагга
[15:31:15] <DI HALT> Курганские мусорные баки доставляют
[15:31:16] <gleb> EvAngel: у меня чет такого не видел... идет шлейф на плату - там только 12 и 5
[15:33:01] <EvAngel> Gleb: на БП пачитай
[15:33:23] <DI HALT> http://f376.chat.ru/rulez.jpg
А такое мне одно время компилятор выдавал часто
[15:33:39] <EvAngel> По крайней мере у меня написано -12 0,3ампера :)
[15:34:10] <EvAngel> Gleb: наверно Доп. Питание
[15:34:55] <MadShed> http://vmoment.ru/201001567034614.png
[15:36:18] <DI HALT> на что это ты там облизываешься?
[15:36:50] <EvAngel> На ента http://f376.chat.ru/K/lakomka.jpg
[15:36:52] <EvAngel> :)
[15:36:54] <MadShed> DI HALT: На бутылку Старого Кенигсберга =)
[15:36:56] <gleb> EvAngel: нету. точно нету.
[15:37:16] <EvAngel> Gleb: ща мот фотку зробаю
[15:39:47] <EvAngel> Обросшая морда :) http://evangel.by/cam_1_20100104_143645.jpg
[15:40:27] <MadShed> Да тут походу вообще редко кто бреетсо =)
[15:40:35] <EvAngel> :)
[15:41:01] <EvAngel> Gleb: блин этим Г многа чего не сфоткаеш :)
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[15:41:16] <gleb> EvAngel: бриться еще рано а постричься к лету надо будет:)
[15:41:43] <EvAngel> Gleb: ага обязательно :)
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[15:43:39] <gleb> а, блин, надо будет еще шим мутить яркостью светодиодов управлять...
[15:44:04] <EvAngel> Gleb: пример http://vint.com.ua/catalog/component/power/FSP/blok-pitanija-839880.html
[15:44:58] <EvAngel> Gleb: -5 нету но гдета видял
[15:45:20] <MadShed> wz uuob
[15:45:22] <Крошка> MadShed: Station name not available - 2010.01.04 1200 UTC / -15C/5F, humidity 71%, wind: from the NNW (340 degrees) at 4 MPH (4 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[15:47:09] <gleb> EvAngel: не открывается, да хрен с ним.
[15:48:56] <FlyerXX> wz ulmm
[15:48:56] <Крошка> FlyerXX: Murmansk, Russia - 2010.01.04 1230 UTC / -35C/-31F, humidity 66%, wind: Calm, visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[15:49:15] <FlyerXX> Крошка: даблин
[15:49:16] <Крошка> FlyerXX: копаю...
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[15:51:39] <gleb> FlyerXX: у вас как в эмиратах
[15:51:45] <gleb> тока с минусом
[15:52:44] <gleb> у нас чат сегодня... plumbum-free:)
[15:54:54] <FlyerXX> не романтично как то , простыл еще пока на елочку ходил :(
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[15:57:16] <EvAngel> Gleb: Максимальная нагрузка +3.3V - 20A, +5V - 20A, +12V1 - 16A, +12V2 - 16A, +5VSB - 2.0A, -12V - 0.8A;
Комбинированная нагрузка: +3.3VDC & +5VDC - 120 Вт +12V1 & +12V2 - 264 Вт
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[15:57:48] <gleb> EvAngel: погоди, это ты про комповый блок питания, а я про ЖК-мониторный
[15:58:18] <EvAngel> Gleb: :D
[15:58:42] <gleb> EvAngel: так что все сходится теперь:)
[15:58:54] <EvAngel> гу
[15:59:42] <gleb> а ну ка раздербаню ка я матрицу
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[16:00:36] <gleb> у меня как раз есть 6 белых светодиодов, на 15 дюймов самое то:)
[16:00:55] <EvAngel> 15 дюймов ? оО
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[16:01:28] <gleb> думаешь мало?:)
[16:01:41] <EvAngel> Этаж какой светик толжен быть
[16:01:51] <EvAngel> Прожеатор ёмаё
[16:02:03] <gleb> один хрен больше нет:)
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[16:02:47] <EvAngel> Склади 2 и получиш примерно 22 д.йма Вайт :)
[16:04:02] <EvAngel> Куда Дихайлт убежал :)
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[16:10:24] <gleb> все это весьма весьма интересно...
[16:10:43] <gleb> высокотехнологичное изделие блин...
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[16:11:17] <gleb> а лампам пиздец. потому и не работало скорее всего. обгоревшие совсем
[16:13:03] <FlyerXX> gleb: ыыы
[16:13:17] <FlyerXX> gleb: обычно одна накрывается
[16:13:26] <gleb> громкое название какое... лампы... две пипетки 2 мм. в диаметре...
[16:13:27] <FlyerXX> gleb: и из за нее ниче не работает
[16:13:38] <FlyerXX> gleb: обычно четыре
[16:13:49] <FlyerXX> gleb: или две ?
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[16:14:02] <FlyerXX> О_о
[16:14:03] <gleb> монитор маленький:) 15 дюймов
[16:14:09] <FlyerXX> не помню чето никуя
[16:14:40] <gleb> концы аж чернючиедо сантиметра от краев
[16:15:26] <FlyerXX> gleb: я се одну отложил для модинга , красненьким светит , прикольно так )))
[16:15:50] <gleb> слушай, а в них ртути нет?..
[16:15:58] <gleb> одна лопнула
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[16:16:23] <microxa> ну не на 100же грамм
[16:17:00] <FlyerXX> gleb: хз , ниче не наблюдал такого
[16:17:09] <FlyerXX> не текло из них никогда ниче
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[16:22:44] <gleb> как расположить 6 светодиодов на горизонтальных гранях? 4 по углам и по одному в центре (сверху и снизу)?
[16:23:19] <MadShed> gleb: Приклеить
[16:24:01] <gleb> наверное надо эксперимент провести. дело ответственное
[16:24:06] <FlyerXX> по углам мне кажется не стоит , там же чето типа светофильтра
[16:25:14] <gleb> тут оргстекло в мелкую соту, под ним 4 слоя каких-то нанотехнологий отражающих
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[16:26:20] <Elektronik> Robin> Здравствуй СЫНА!
[16:26:23] <FlyerXX> во во
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[16:36:04] <gleb> мдя... эксперимент заставил задуматься где бы взять еще полтинник светодиодов...
[16:36:34] <gleb> нужны смд.
[16:36:53] <gleb> эти лягут только боком и будут светить хрен знает куда
[16:37:08] <gleb> а не туда куда надо
[16:38:10] <FlyerXX> gleb: в мобилка с подсветки экрана
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[16:38:53] <gleb> затруднительно. нао покупать.
[16:39:04] <gleb> MadShed: есть смд светодиоды?:)
[16:39:18] <FlyerXX> gleb: убитых много в мастерских должно быть
[16:40:01] <gleb> выпаивать просто замучаюсь
[16:40:18] <gleb> они ж пипеточные и под феном плохо им становится совсем
[16:40:32] <FlyerXX> gleb: феном норм , либо жало под смд пассив заточи
[16:40:41] <gleb> нужны одинаковые, с одинаковой степенью деградации
[16:40:52] <FlyerXX> :-D
[16:41:25] <FlyerXX> да хоть разные , главное шоб были
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[16:49:28] <MadShed> gleb: Есть =)
[16:50:07] <MadShed> gleb: На подсветку TFT-панелей у нас брали синие и белые 0805 =)
[16:50:19] <MadShed> и даж 1206
[16:50:21] <MadShed> =0
[16:50:52] <MadShed> wz uuob
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[16:59:01] <MadShed> В Мытищах загорелся павильон с огнетушителями О_О
[16:59:19] <gleb> MadShed: можешь прямую ссылку на белые пожалуйста?
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[17:04:23] <MadShed> gleb: http://www.mitracon.ru/pdf/FORYARD/FYLS-1206XX1.pdf
[17:04:45] <gleb> MadShed: цена какая?
[17:06:03] <MadShed> gleb: Есть только синии
[17:06:32] <MadShed> Белых пока нету у поставщиков
[17:06:57] <MadShed> тем более что это прошлогодняя так сказать информация=)
[17:08:22] <gleb> MadShed: ну если цена нормальная то полторы сотни я возьму. и попутно надо будет наборы резисторов-кондеров, из микросхем кое что и еще по мелочи. можно так?
[17:09:38] <MadShed> gleb: С наборами пока неразбериха =) Т.е. их НЕТ =)
[17:10:19] <MadShed> А светодиоды дето в р-не 6.5-7 рублей синии и около 10 рэ белые будут стоить =)
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[17:11:47] <gleb> выходные закончатся решим.
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[17:43:22] <exception13> так
[17:43:24] <exception13> интересно
[17:43:32] <exception13> в станции есть КСВ метр
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[18:17:22] <A3dtg> Привет всем!
[18:19:40] <MadShed> A3dtg: ДароФ
[18:20:34] <A3dtg> Парни подскажите пожалуйста,если на керамическом кондере только цифры но нет букв эт nf или П?
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[18:25:37] <lebaon> это од)
[18:25:58] <lebaon> точнее говоря, последняя цифра - число нулей
[18:26:11] <lebaon> остальные - емкость в пиках
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[18:30:53] <A3dtg> lebaon: ну вот например на нем написано 10,это 10пикоф.?да или нет
[18:33:07] <lebaon> думаю, что да
[18:33:15] <lebaon> оно же 100
[18:35:18] <A3dtg> lebaon: а все понял спасиб
[18:42:37] <lebaon> люди, почему у осилла луч может наклониться?
[18:43:01] <serj> постоянка в отклонялке?
[18:43:25] <serj> на пластины подается?
[18:43:38] <serj> или осцилл цифровой :D
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[18:44:15] <lebaon> аналоговый
[18:44:34] <formix> Сила Ленца - великая вещь.
[18:44:48] <serj> ))
[18:44:52] <lebaon> магнитное поле?
[18:45:07] <serj> ну тоже может повлиять
[18:45:13] <lebaon> хмм
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[18:45:17] <serj> если у тебя осцилл на колонке стоит
[18:45:19] <serj> )
[18:45:25] <lebaon> он стоит на столе)
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[18:45:40] <serj> пора уж на цифровой переходить
[18:45:41] <lebaon> источников маг поля рядом нет
[18:45:53] <serj> аналоговый осцилл - это 20 век))
[18:45:57] <lebaon> ну, его покупать надо)
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[18:46:20] <lebaon> а этот с-68 мне нахаляву достался)
[18:47:01] <Serj[PowerOFF]> ужс)
[18:47:18] <Serj[PowerOFF]> чот ник самопроизвольно меняется бред какой то
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[18:47:28] <lebaon> ужос)
[18:47:38] <Dema> фаза луны не та..
[18:47:54] <lebaon> угу, или есть наводка от развертки
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[18:50:58] <formix> бывает что труюка проворачивается
[18:51:06] <formix> *трубка
[18:51:18] <serj> ?
[18:51:21] <serj> это как?
[18:53:19] <formix> просто в корпусе повернулась, элт же не жестко закреплены. Резинки всякие усыхают со временем
[18:55:22] <serj> ну я все понимаю
[18:55:28] <serj> но крутить то ее зачем?)
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[19:00:10] <lebaon> хмм
[19:00:28] <lebaon> а разве разметка экрана не на трубке нанесенна?
[19:03:12] <formix> разные бывают
[19:18:13] <lebaon> понятно
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[20:39:29] <SiemX> Elektronik: exception13 Afrit aleksonik bakava cel366 Dotprod FlyerXX formix gleb ILYA_Zzz int_true kekek lebaon mahon Mr. Teapot Nail nazg-gul Python Robin serj sevasat sftp uglock Victor zap zxc Крошка ZhekSooN Привет
[20:40:42] <sftp> ага, привет
[20:41:59] <lebaon> привет, ага
[20:43:05] <ZhekSooN> ну привет всм
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[20:44:16] <sevasat> все спят=)
[20:44:52] <lebaon> не все)
[20:44:52] <ZhekSooN> так и понял...
[20:45:19] <lebaon> отчего может в бп на операционниках самовозбуждение происходить?
[20:45:41] <ZhekSooN> от сильного усиления мб
[20:46:20] <lebaon> хмм, пробовал уменьшать - не помогает
[20:47:26] <ZhekSooN> кондёров побольше ставь, керамики на входах\выходах
[20:47:32] <lebaon> а может быть, что операционники вносят задержку?
[20:47:55] <lebaon> типа зашунтировать керамикой входы?
[20:48:38] <ZhekSooN> да, так
[20:49:14] <lebaon> это мысль, поробую)
[20:52:13] <SiemX> Ссылка для скачивания файла электролиты.jpg --> http://file.qip.ru/file/114792192/456fa956/_online.html
[20:53:20] <SiemX> вверху 5 электролитов по 20мкф каждый 350ы
внизу 220мкф 400в
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[20:56:08] <lebaon> наглядненько
[20:56:43] <SiemX> ага :-) технологий за посделние пару десятков лет
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[20:58:27] <MadShed.Bel> Вот блин
[21:00:26] <lebaon> мадшелла колбасит
[21:03:52] <MadShed.Bel> lebaon: Та у меня с учетки Яндекса не пускает сюда =)
[21:04:50] <lebaon> :-)
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[21:14:13] <lebaon> мультисим жгет
[21:14:43] <lebaon> http://rghost.ru/789924/image.png
[21:16:57] <lebaon> вот как образовалось за сотню вольт в этой схеме?
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[21:45:12] <serj> глюк программы
[21:45:13] <serj> )
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[22:16:23] <lebaon> ))
[22:16:48] <lebaon> у меня в инсте элтех проходят только на симуляторах
[22:17:25] <lebaon> так я постоянно с препом спорю - что лучше, железо или симулятор))
[22:17:39] <serj> железо лучше
[22:17:50] <lebaon> я тоже так считаю)
[22:18:11] <lebaon> а преп говорит, что симуляторы лучше
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[22:19:29] <lebaon> мол не спалишь ничего, дешево, током не ударит
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[22:25:05] <serj> lebaon: равносильно что картинку на бумаге разглядывать
[22:25:15] <serj> а вот когда пощупаешь 110 хотя бы :)))
[22:25:21] <serj> уже просветление будет
[22:25:23] <serj> :)
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[22:27:35] <EvAngel> Ho all
[22:27:40] <EvAngel> хи
[22:27:42] <EvAngel> :)
[22:27:58] <EvAngel> Подкиньте фузы для Меги 32
[22:28:07] <EvAngel> 16мгц
[22:30:21] <MadShed.Bel> wz uuob
[22:30:23] <Крошка> MadShed.Bel: Station name not available - 2010.01.04 1900 UTC / -18C/0F, humidity 84%, wind: Variable at 4 MPH (4 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
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[23:17:06] <mahon> wz unnt
[23:17:08] <Крошка> mahon: Station name not available - 2010.01.04 2000 UTC / -27C/-16F, humidity 68%, wind: from the NNE (030 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
[23:18:37] <exception13> wz uwkd
[23:18:39] <Крошка> exception13: Kazan', Russia - 2010.01.04 2000 UTC / -26C/-14F, humidity 75%, wind: from the W (280 degrees) at 9 MPH (8 KT), visibility: greater than 7 mile(s)
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[23:35:43] <serj> прочитал начало, розовые сопли, ниасилил
[23:35:45] <serj> 60
[23:36:00] <serj> букаф многовато
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[23:52:03] <serkon> охх
